A big shoutout to the kind reader who hooked me up with this Wikipedia page, which discusses Howard S. Becker’s social theory of “Moral Entrepreneurs”. I found it really interesting, particularly in relation to the idea of splitting this group into Rule Creators, and Rule Enforcers, and studying their role in society, along socio-economic lines, and I wanted to read more, after my interest had been stimulated by this always relevant topic. I came across this WordPress site, which expanded on the topic, and I thought my readers might find it interesting.
Anyone who has been following earlier posts on this blog will be familiar with the topic of YouTube trolling, because I’ve written several posts by now on the subject, which kicked off from a post called Denis The Menace Strikes Again. Seems this post upset some people, and later poststhat followed on from the same topic resulted in a veritable gaggle of trolls taking wing to protest that I was in fact the troll, in part due to the fact that I was creating more posts on the subject, which has been a hot topic in media news, since efforts are being made to curtail the activities of online bullies, with related debates emerging about the existing legal structures in place to deal with online harassment, particularly around whether the laws in place are robust enough currently to effectively combat what the mainstream media are saying is a growing phenomenon.
How much of this is mainstream propaganda, and how much is statistically reliable information I just don’t know for sure, but I have certainly experienced my fair share of trolling while hanging out in YouTube, initiated by my initial meeting with Denise Matteau, via the Truth Convoy YouTube channel, one of several channels I’m subscribed to. Yes, I get right up Denise’s nose, not just for the blog posts, but for other qualities as well, including ones I thought weren’t so bad, like being nice to people I meet on YouTube. Some of the more criminal allegations are discussed in this livestream I held on the 23rd June, specifically so anyone could drop over and discuss them in chat, or ask me questions etc. As it happened, only ‘friendlies’ turned up, and we had a chat to compare notes and for me to tell my version of the story, which for those who don’t know, and never got to see any of Denise’s now removed videos, runs along the lines I describe in the livestream. The story currently is that I am in a stalker gang, cyber-bullying Denise, and this gang killed her daughter and is trying to ruin her online business. We also want to arrange some kind of rounding up of people (sorry, but I still can’t figure out who) so that we can burn them in a Waco-style event!
I can’t find a Truth Convoy video that sums up all the allegations of criminality succintly, but you can get a flavour of what Denise says is happening here. Good luck following the story if you are not up to date on it already, but this video contains some of her current theories about the troll network.
I’ve tried to laugh off some of her personal criticisms of me, some clips remain in this video:
But, the criminal allegations, I thought, deserved a longer response. So here it is, for what it’s worth (and I doubt it’s worth consideration in Denise’s mind, but anyhoo). Helpful hint: click on the YouTube icon at bottom right to view on YouTube, to see the chat area as well as the video.
Chinada got in on the act as well, making out he hadn’t watched my livestream (and maybe he hadn’t – why bother with facts, when you can just jump to conclusions, ‘cos a sweet old lady told you a story about all the trolls that are targeting her, killed her daughter, and are part of a left-wing multi-channel YouTube troll mob who are planning a new Waco style inferno? He had things to say to me in his comment section when I asked him to let Denise know I was doing a livestream, where people could drop over and ask questions, or make comments.
Further sallies ensued.
The self-appointed Sherrif of YouTube (Chinada3) went on to make a video which earned him the nickname Trigger from me, as he seemed a little triggered, to say the least, by the fact that he got doxed by Wynter Moon, live in LTV’s livestream, where Wynter and myself were in chat. Me, talking about chocolate with someone, and Wynter busily doxing the heck out of Chinada.
Well, you can imagine the confusion that ensued when he couldn’t remember who was the doxer. He had to ask the ‘Queen of Trolls’, Denise’s moniker for little ol’ me, who did the dirty on him, and I had to go into explanations again. Why he couldn’t just watch his own video again to find out, I’ll never know, but that’s how strong emotion works, isn’t it? Bypasses the logic centres at times.
Things got worse for poor ol’ Trigger. Montagraph, who the little Sheriff had been threatening to dox, got involved, and more videos resulted. Like this one, which basically seemed to be implying that the Sheriff is a big girl’s blouse.
The video seemed to be partly a response to these comments by Montagraph on Chinada3’s ill-thought out approach to kiss and make up time with Monty, which was to start calling him Sir in his video titles, and ask if they could make videos together.
No sloppy kisses had to be witnessed, just a bit of an ugly scene, because once Montagraph says he’s gonna do something, it’s very hard to turn the horse around to get it back in the barn, and any sheriff who runs out of caps for his popgun would do better to stay on the horse, and get the heck out of town at a gallop. Trigger understandably got a bit depressed about videos like this one. And the fact he’s thinking of getting out of town for a while, and maybe trying to get a sheriff’s badge over at Twitch. With a hundred GoFundMe bucks in one’s chaparreras a guy can buy oats for the horse and flop for a few nights, or just head out in the desert and stare at the stars, or share beans with other cowboys.
Apart from making sure he’s calling Montagraph Sir, Chinada seems to be generally trying to turn over a new leaf, and after I expressed sympathy for his doxing, dropped by to leave this comment under my livestream video.
Bonus material: The drama triangle (Steve Karpman) and the winner’s triangle (Acey Choy) theories explained.
Denise the Menace is at it again (see tonight’s livestreamed video at the bottom of this post). She got a couple of strikes on her YouTube Denise Matteau channel. If you don’t know Denise, and she seems to have come to a lot of people’s attention of late, for all the wrong reasons, you can read about her on an earlier post here. She’s quite the character lately. And she likes to stay relevant to everything that’s happening in the ‘Truther Community’ by keeping up with the local gossip and scandal on all the other channels in her corner of YouTube. Her take on events and other people’s opinions alienates some, enrages others. I find myself constantly among the alienated, since she blocks me so frequently, and I find myself thinking ‘Was it something I said?’ This time, it clearly was. A one-liner in her livestream chat was all it took to get myself unceremoniously chucked out on my ear. Thumbs down from me for that one, Denise.
Thing is, Denise doesn’t invite differences of opinion. Outside of ‘you are so right’ type of remarks, she gets quite nervous and defensive. She hands out wrenches to the five or six trusted minions who turn up in chat, and these ‘wenches with wrenches’ are on a constant look-out for anyone new to arrive so that they can chuck them out as quickly as possible, and keep the lovely Denise all to themselves. There is a mad scramble to name that troll, and as soon as a wrench has decided, for no apparent reason that someone is a troll, out they go. What a weird way to run a channel, but it makes sense when you read a little of Denise’s history, which is full of paranoia about stalkers and trolls everywhere. The truth is, she is training her own little troll crew. Thankfully there are so few of them that they can’t do too much harm; most in that corner of YouTube know how crazy her little ‘Family’ are, and tolerate them by ignoring them. Way to go to kill your channel, Denise.
Here’s the latest ejection from the chatroom. It all started out so friendly, too. After my comment shown in bold I got blocked for being a troll. Skavop got turfed out moments later for questioning the ejection. That’s pretty much how Denise’s system works, wrenches everywhere, questions never.
Charming people, aren’t they? Obsessed with trolls everywhere, keen to badmouth and ban people for no reason, not accessible to logic or truth-telling in any shape or form. Denise went over to ‘Lift The Veil’s Livestream‘ in the middle of her own streaming, and got herself so annoyed she ended up in a big shouting fit. The wrench crew got more upset too, and the vibe got nastier all round. And these are all Christians!
I don’t imagine Denise’s channel will survive much longer, though she might manage to flog a couple more quilts and flowerpots, I suppose. Jerome Corsi seems to be her latest target among the other YouTube channels, and as you can see from her remarks in the video, not to mention her previous history, her obsessions often end up with the object of her attentions feeling sorry they ever met her. Lucky for me, I can just consider her entertainment. Imagine if you had to bump up against someone like this at work, or have a YouTube channel she is interested in. It always ends badly, but is pretty entertaining, if frustrating at times for the people she tries to shut up. You better watch the video quickly, because she usually pulls them down more often than an elderly woman needs to use the loo at night. Her chat on the stream is immortalized here, because she pulls the chat down, for reasons that should be clear from reading the above, straight after the stream goes off. She may also change video settings, so if videos don’t play on this page, click on video to get option to view it in YouTube.
If you want to know what happens to Denise’s rejects, we end up in the purgatory of our own channels, comparing notes about the rotten way we’ve been treated, some still in shock after realizing they are not in with the in crowd any more. It’s quite a wrench when you realize you’ll never get to be one of her trusted ‘flying monkeys’. See the comments on Denise’s ex-subscribers that were booted out herehttps://youtu.be/zGF3qBz08P8and herehttps://youtu.be/lG4XNbrT1jY and here https://youtu.be/zZ9jcBte2W0,
Postscript: One hour after her livestream, the threats of legal action started. One day later the video was removed by her, but I kept the transcript over here, if you want to take a looky-look.
New videos are going up and down two days later (3rd April) faster than a Victoria secrets model’s undies at a catwalk show. I presume the two shown below in the photo of my ‘phone’s notifications were issuing more instructions to the ‘Family’, but I don’t know, because she pulled both videos down immediately after livestreaming ended. She is keen to have her circle of wrenches write to her via snail mail too; perhaps there is less of a trail left of her activities for others to record? Of course some of the traces of her activities across the internet remain. Like her 2016 trolling of someone in an abuse survivors group.
The flying monkeys are willing to help the campaign too, it seems:
Denise is issuing orders to her flying monkeys via her comment section, and doing a little light stalking while she’s about it:
Whew. Like I said, charming little ‘Family’ she’s got there. Glad I’m not related, aren’t you? Feel free to leave comments; the button is at the top of the post. You won’t be chucked out, or blocked. Free speech is an actual thing in some places, you know.
Postscript: Looks like some folks did want to comment. They were unable to find the comment button here, unfortunately, so they made their comments elsewhere. I thought I’d help them out here.
A short filmed clip from one of Denise’s removed videos, posted on my own YouTube channel on April 20th, garnered more trolling aimed at a commenter, from the always charming Neon, who, it turns out, is an Anonymous member, which may come as a surprise to Denise, who is not keen on left-wing groups.
Not sure where Denise stands on death threats, but this sure sound like one to me.
Wasn’t long before Neon had something else to say. Seems the worm turned, as they say, as this May 7th comment shows, when Denise decided that Neon was perhaps more of a liability than an asset.
A couple of hours later, Neon was back in the comments section, this time as Anonymous Neon Flux, with an apology for her earlier remarks. Clearly, things were turning all over the place (I had to edit this post several times already today, so I’m sure there’s a bit of the Mandela Effect going on in some people’s minds).
2 hours later, Neon was back in Denise’s livestream broadcast, This time as ‘Candy Kisses’ along with hubby, scotty A, and they wanted their money back for orchid planters they had bought. Unhappy customers it seems. The planters looked so nice too.
Denise’s post- match analysis, broadcast about an hour after the incident .